United Brachial Plexus Network, Inc.

Well it's going to give some stability to my shoulder after years and years.

“Dynamic muscle transfers have shown the best results for correction of scapular winging and restoration of function in patients with serratus anterior palsy . Advantages of dynamic muscle transfer over fusion or static stabilization procedures are that it provides dynamic control of the scapula and allows nearly normal scapulothoracic motion”

I have been in contact with other whom have had this surgery all with good results, so this along with other documented cases I feel can only mean a move in the right direction.

Mike if you have any views on this please do share.

Best regards James

James
Who is that quote from? I would be interested in reading the rest! Does your winging scapula stop you doing anything?
Thanks!

It not only stops me doing things but it impacts on many other aspects, i.e. driving, and sleeping.

Here is the link but there are many on long thoracic nerve damage

http://freespace.virgin.net/steven.fromm/

Guest do you suffer with this condition?

James

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Thank you James.
I do suffer a winging scapula but the damage to my long thoracic nerve was in association with other, worse damage to other nerves with the result that the winging scapula is very low on my list of priorities! I have severe pain, and from what I read both here and on the site you provide, the one thing no doctor seems able to resolve with surgery to correct the winging is the pain. I wouldn't go under the knife unless I had a guarantee that the pain would go.
I am finding as time goes by that I am developing an ability to put the pain to the back of my mind and function as well as I used to, so I am hopeful for the future.
Thank you again

Sorry to here that, I know I'm lucky I guess in comparison to others as it's only one nerve which is damaged.

I have spoken with people whom have gone through the procedure all three with positive results, the way I feel is that I'm still young and when I weigh it all up to me it's worth going for.

Best regards, James

Hi, I enjoyed your article posted on freeserve and am interested in learning more especially if there are any specialist in the Chicago area.

About 2 months ago I had a high fever with vomiting for about 7 days. Lots of blood tests and upper an GI CAT scan was done but we really could not determine the cause. Part way through I thought I injured my shoulder reaching for something behind my back. Initially I thought it was my rotator cup as my father, a retired surgeon, had injured his earlier playing tennis. My personal physician could not find a problem with my rotator cup and sent me to physical theropy as I could not raise straighten my right hand above my head. The PT quickly noticed the winging of my scapula and felt I had some how injured my long thoraccis nerve as my serratus anterior muscle did not seem to be working.

Now I see that I could have neuralgic amyotrophy, or Parsonage-Turner syndrome. So I am reading up on it and planning on going to see a neurosurgeon. I have had 2 PT sessions over the last month and will continue but I would like a specialist’s opinion. Also I like my PT but any other exercises would be great. I do 3 band exercises and three arm raising ones.


Any suggestions or sites to visit would be appreciated.

Hi, I enjoyed your article posted on freeserve and am interested in learning more especially if there are any specialist in the Chicago area.



About 2 months ago I had a high fever with vomiting for about 7 days. Lots of blood tests and upper an GI CAT scan was done but we really could not determine the cause. Part way through I thought I injured my shoulder reaching for something behind my back. Initially I thought it was my rotator cup as my father, a retired surgeon, had injured his earlier playing tennis. My personal physician could not find a problem with my rotator cup and sent me to physical theropy as I could not raise straighten my right hand above my head. The PT quickly noticed the winging of my scapula and felt I had some how injured my long thoraccis nerve as my serratus anterior muscle did not seem to be working.



Now I see that I could have neuralgic amyotrophy, or Parsonage-Turner syndrome. So I am reading up on it and planning on going to see a neurosurgeon. I have had 2 PT sessions over the last month and will continue but I would like a specialist’s opinion. Also I like my PT but any other exercises would be great. I do 3 band exercises and three arm raising ones.



Any suggestions or sites to visit would be appreciated.

Hello, I wrote this post about 2 years ago. My son is now 17 years old. Has seen top specialists in south florida and now New York city. My son went through 1.5 years of PT that really did help. He had stopped winging. The doctor felt he could now proceed with the shoulder surgery to stabilize the subluxation/dislocation. He had that done was really doing great. Doctor released him to play football (his dream, we as parents should have known better) my son didnt not make through summer training camp. He came home from practice (had not even started contact)and was complaining that it was hurting, we noticed he was starting to wing again (a little) not to the degree as before. We immediately had him stop playing ball took him back to the doctor. Who said he was fine just to rest it. 3 weeks later he fell getting out of the car and it has been downhill since. His winging is back full blown. We know have him on home schooling because somedays he cant make it to school due to pain and the subluxation. He is also now experiencing severe low back pain. His original injury was under workers comp. (at 14) he was hit while bringing grocery carts into a store, his first job. The car that hit him took off. But now workers comp says they are no longer responsible for his care because it is a new injury. So we by law have to go under our no fault. We do not have a lawyer. We are thinking of applying for ss disability for him to help him through this tough time and think it is going to be awhile. I hate to do it, I am afraid it will make him feel helpless and disabled. We took him back to his doctor who we feel is making light of the situation, not really doing anything for him except wait and see. We decided it was time for a second opinion, took him to see dr. nath. Who may be a brillant doctor but I feel he was too quick to promote surgery, without taking a full history and looking closer at my sons orthopedic issues. I do not know how he can decide surgery is the answer when he saw him for 10-15 minutes and did not hardly examine or take a full history. We decided to take him to see a doctor in New york who is also top in his field and quite familiar with bpi. He said to stay away from the decompression(very stongly against it) He took a thourgh history and spent 30 minutes examining him, stated he needs to see the top shoulder specialist in the world. Also felt that in time the winging/long thoracic nerve injury may go away like last time. But stated he has never seen this happen twice, where someone healed and stopped winging and then reinjured that same nerve. Thought I would share the latest.

I have wrote here before and want to tell you all beware. I have been all over chicago land and seen several doctors more then 10. Some doctors have done the decompression a few times and some don't do it period. Some doctors have done the pec surgery a few times and some don't do it at all. What does this tell you nobody understands this or can do anything that is effective enough to reverse this problem. I have this lovely problem along with you other folks. I still say to this day is rest is the best!!!! I have been winging for over a year and have never had pt and have received better results then most of you honestly. The problem is you must limit the stuff you do on a daily basis. I feel I no as much as the doctors do on this subject which is very true when you start seeing there research is the same stuff as what we all have been reading. So anyone who wants to talk more about my positives of this problem write me back.