How many mothers birthed their BPI child while on their back?

[Ashleigh's Mom]

I birthed my baby while in the supine position. We had also tried some left sidelying during the pushing phase but the baby crowned while I was supine.

[ShailyR]

A-supine

[admin]

I was lying on my back, with my husband and a nurse holding my legs on each side. And a nurse jumped on top me and pressed my stomach. They were all in panic.
It was a very fast delivery. The baby is out after just about 10 minutes of pushing.

[admin]

Before I respond I would like to know your motivation in asking this question. Obviously your reasons are not scientific as this messageboard is hardly the place to gather valid data, or a sample of the overall population. Further in just asking the question of position only, you preclude all other factors that may have required a certain position. If you are trying to understand the cause of BPI it is simply not enough to ask of position.

I am also very confused as to why you mention your association as a member of the Board of Directors of UBPN. To bolster your credibly? Through this forum, does the Board wish to gather information about its participants?

Once you have compiled your information, what do you intend to do with it? Certainly you should share your result with this messageboard.

Finally I wish to know if you ask this question as a personal interest, or will it support any hypothesis you have as a professional?

[admin]

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[admin]

Even in stating that "Women do have a choice of positioning" renders you an idiot. I didn't have a choice when I was in the most intense pain of my life. I didn't have a choice when I was told that my baby could die. That I could die.

I know your situation, and I feel compassion for you. You have a background in science, and you are trying to make sense of what happended to your kid. Why don't you take all this time that you are writing and just spend time with your kid, your children? I know what I am writing about. Before my daugher was born, I was probably among the best mathematicians in software programming. It took alot of time for me to finally separate myself from my professional intellect, but I did. And you can too. You should!

[Angela Butterfly]

Dr Rich,
I do not consider myself a scientific kind of person. However, my common sense seems to be pretty good. I have gotten myself in trouble when I didn't listen to my common sense tho.

Now with common sense in mind. I have always thought gravity would be useful in the delivery of babies. I think women birth their babies on their backs for the convenience of the doctor.

I have also always thought that God or whatever you believe, did a pretty good job of designing our bodies. So I always thought women had breasts for the feeding of their babies.

Now, to answer the question. I was on my back for all 3 deliveries, and I had the same doctor for all three, he a G.P. At that time 1980, 1982, 1984, it was necessary to drive to a different county to find an O.B. I think we have 2 O.B.'s in our county now.

My first 7-11, was sunny side up, and kept popping in and out for an hour, until I litteraly gave up, before the doctor finally helped me deliver her. Delivered 3 days before due date. No problems otherwise. Three hours hard labor

My second 9-2, came very quickly, after 2 hours hard labor. Her entire face was a very deep purple (almost black) and I was ripped to heaven and back (no stitches because they didn't know where to begin). Three days later they decided to give me 2 units of blood before they would let me go home. It was 6 weeks before I could walk well and was out of intense pain. Delivered 3 days after due date.

My third was due on the 8th and born on the 24th. She 10-8, severe LOBPI. She too came quickly,after only 1 hour hard labor, but then with her head born, that was it. She was not black and blue, nor was I injured that time. However, she wasn't breathing right away. They got her breathing and a few months later when I ran into the delivery nurse, at a local gathering of people, she told me "I was lucky to have a live baby."

Until after my last daughter was born, I had always thought that when a baby was too big, they just didn't come, and a C-section was done. I was never told I had gestational diabetis, and have since gotten regular fasting diabetis tests done, and do not have it. My last 2 babies are however, very big boned (like their father)and have to get their rings sized way bigger than the norm. I and my oldest can buy the regular size off the jewlery store counter.

If a study was done on this material, I do believe it would have to use percentages of all babies born to the same mother, and their results relating to normal vs BPI.

Now in hindsight, it looks like I didn't have very good common sense in not throwing a royal fit, when my 3rd baby was so over due. My doctor said "babies come when they are ready, and not before." I don't know why now I trusted him so blindly. I just thought if they were too big you had a c section.

[admin]

A.
I begged them to let me squat, but dr. said I couldn't because I had an epidural. They brought in this big guy to push on my stomach. They did not tell me he was going to do that. I was shocked.

[katep]

I, for one, am getting quite sick and tired of anonymous posters writing stuff like this latest from "Guest". People are entitled to their opinions, even strongly held ones, but debating with shadows is a waste of everyone's time.

GUEST: if you are not willing to (or even if you cannot, for legal reasons) sign your name to what you write, you should keep your tone neutral and your opinions to yourself. Please leave the debates to people willing to stand by their words and accept responsibility for them.

UBPN board: can we please have a guest policy that allows information gathering only from guest posters? I suggest that anonymous posters should not be allowed to express opinions or participate in debates, period... no matter what side of the issue they are on. That would remove any suggestion that moderation is biased, and make this place a little more agreeable place to post. Anonymous posting makes it too easy for people to just react and attack without thinking. At least if someone is posting under their name or account, they can be held to task for what they write.

May I suggest a No Name - No Opinion policy?

Kate