United Brachial Plexus Network, Inc.

Christy, I e-mailed you.

Brandon, I don't think that anyone is trying to stomp on anyone's rights, just wanting to keep this place respectable. Also, the person who asked the question, the original poster, didn't say anything bad about the replies so I'm not sure what you're referring to about being prepared for the answer.

Guest, whoever you are, if you're going to quote, or should I say, misquote me, why don't you address me directly and with an ID? Are you someone who usually posts with an ID and is usually friendly with me, but are too uncomfortable with putting your name behind your post? I know it can be hard to step out of our comfort zones at times. I hesitated to reply to Christy's post b/c personally I like Christy. Anyway, you said "It was mentioned that parents should not 'state your opinion or perceptions.'" Well, I never said that anyone "should not" post their opinion or perception. What I said is that's "where the problem lies." Sure, a post might not be a direct violation of the message board policy, but it might be upsetting to a lot of people who contribute to the board. Personally, when I post a message, I don't worry about message board policy, but what I worry about is could what I wrote offend someone. Maybe you don't feel the same as me, but if I offended or hurt someone, I would want to know and be able to apologize (as Christy did). Also, I never said anything about making anyone look like a saint. Nor did I say that my mind wasn't open to a different experience. As I wrote, I like to hear the good and the bad. Sometimes it really just comes down to wording and keeping comments about bad experiences respectful. If you notice, there were other bad experiences stated here that no one commented on, perhaps b/c they were respectfully written.

MissMae, I don't know what your post said or why it was removed, but if you look through this thread, you will find that it's not only the "good" opinions that are remaining here. Ironically, it seems like Dr. Nath is the only dr. here where there are bad experiences posted or that remain on the board. As far as people being allowed to say that Dr. Nath is not the only good dr., no one is stopping anyone from saying anything great about any dr. In fact, they do it quite frequently. I read a lot of positive posts about Kozin and Waters.

~Tina

I do wish people would not post that their doctor is 'number one' or 'the best', because that also offends people. Everyone thinks their doctor is the best!

I just wanted to say that everyone has different personalities. Dr. Nath is quiet, soft spoken and reserved especially when he is evaluating someone (you can see him concentrating). It is all in how you personally perceive things. As for him looking at your daughter as a project, I think he would have to look at every child as a "project" because every child's injury is different. No two injuries are alike so he has to look at them as individual "projects". I personally like the individual attention. Dr. Nath has always treated my son with respect. MissMae, I have seen people "attack" if something negative is said about Kozin. People naturally defend their own doctors because they think their doctor is the best. What kind of parents would we be if we didn't find the best for our kids. Just my opinion.

Tina, excellent post., I get very disturbed when I hear all these negative comments on the boards. Like you stated, we are here to help others, not disrespect people. I believe we also post about our personal feelings about "us" and not what we're taking these children for help for. Haven't we all had a bad day when we struggle not to be rude or disrespectful? We are entitled to that as we're human. But to worry about the doctors being friendly, giving them the most attention, poor bedside manor that day etc.etc.etc...I've had doctors that have the worst bedside manner but are excellent physicians and when someone asks me about him/her I gladly say they are an excellent physician because that's what it's all about. Did they help me or my child(whomever I'm there for), work with me, answer my questions or be descent enough to refer me on because they're not sure or don't do that work? Were they honest with me? It's not about "my personal" feelings-it's the experience for my child that I'm concerned about. No one likes to be disrespected, let's be honest. What examples are we setting for the child/ren we are so concerned about? What's wrong with saying "I didn't care for him/her but he/she did wonders for my child" or "wasn't able to help us and sent us on"? We're all humans and deserve respect no mater who or what we are...just for the fact of being human...along with our mistakes that we "ALL" make. Let's accept and respect and be adults about it. If anyone wants to email me personally, feel free.

Shelley

It is always difficult to judge when a post steps over the line of civility and respect. The Board Moderators, as always, do their best to make fair judgments.

Somehow the threads having to do with personal experiences with individual doctors are especially argumentative.

I think we have had enough discussion on this particular topic and the board moderators have asked if we can close this thread because it is devolving into something none of us want to read any longer. We will delete any posts that follow this one.

Nancy Birk
UBPN President